I believe I can relate to this. I have noticed that engineers in a leadership role for an extended period of time within a company, can at times, get complacent with innovation and more resistant to change. And to your point, would rather focus on making current manufacturing practices more efficient. Creating efficient and streamlined processes is extremely important but the lack of leadership toward driving innovation is detrimental in the long term when competing in a competitive market. Most of these engineers in these roles look at innovation as more of a remediation for current products in the pipeline instead of bringing new products to market.