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Penalization for Going Over Budget and Time?

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 knm7
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I don't think anyone should be penalized for going over budget or past a deadline when related to a project. In the field, there are many times where upper management would go over budget with projects such as building additions or testing timelines. The issue doesn't just fall on the employees executing the testing but sometimes it could be because unreasonable deadlines were set. I think if anyone should be penalized, it is those who set the unreasonable deadlines and low budgets. At the same time, there are many external factors that could occur and delay the timeline as well as cause the team to go over budget. Unless the project is delayed through procrastination, constant  callouts, or consistent mistakes by one team member, I feel like the one team member should be penalized instead of the team as a whole. Group punishment causes good employees to leave and bring their skills and knowledge to other companies that would appreciate them. 

 
Posted : 01/03/2023 10:22 pm
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Project managers should only be penalized in specific scenarios if a project exceeds the budget or goes past the deadline. An example would be if the project manager misplanned the project and was clearly the reason that the project exceeded the timeline and the budget. Additionally, if the team was plagued by procrastination, then it may be fair to punish the team members. If these are the sources of the late project, then the team and the manager should be informed of this and given a warning by management. This is, however, rare as most delays are the cause of factors outside of the project manager's hands. These factors can include delays in shipping, as well as changes to the scope of the project. Sometimes the delayed completion may even be the result of unrealistic expectations from the stakeholders. In cases like these, the project manager and the team should not be penalized since it was clearly not their fault. Additionally, a company that enforces penalties like this would establish a poor reputation and, in turn, would cause many candidates to steer clear of working there as well as result in employees leaving the company. If a penalty were to be considered for late projects, it may be then fair to propose a reward for the completion of projects that are under the budget and on time. 

 
Posted : 02/03/2023 8:20 pm
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I don't think personal punishment is necessary. As the topic mentioned, there are several unexpected things that would happen and slow down the project process. The manager usually remains time for this situation on each task. But things sometimes still go wrong, and that's also why murphy's law is famous. When a problem happens, the manager is the one who needs to suggest the solution and try to make the project on time. People would evaluate managers by how they solve the problem. This reputation would become their "punishment", or "appreciation."

 
Posted : 02/03/2023 9:15 pm
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I think it depends on what the reason for going over budget and time is for whether or not employees or PMs should be "punished". If the reason is due to a personally uncontrollable scenario, like suppliers behind behind on their production or international shipping delays, no one should be penalized. If it is a known risk, goof PMs would factor these scenarios into their project planning, but even so, cases may arise where it couldn't have been planned for. However, in cases where the reason for going over budget is employee incompetence, there should be some form of "punishment" so to speak. I think these punishments would be more like warnings or strikes before the employee needs to be re-evaluated for their role. Employee incompetence would be something like procrastination (even with reminders), no communication with PM or other team members about serious problems that may arise, or general lack of respect/effort for the project and those around them. An example may also be like ordering parts/supplies needed without researching if said items can even be used in the project. 

If honest mistakes occur, I believe that no one should be penalized, even if it resulted in delays as long as it wasn't due to gross negligence. In these situations, it should just be discussed on how to avoid making the same mistake in the future. We are human, mistakes happen. 

 
Posted : 04/03/2023 1:28 pm
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This is a very situational question, because as mentioned in the original post, there are numerous reasons why a project may go over budget or not be completed in due time. However, I don’t think most of the reasons why projects go over budget or not meet deadlines is punishable. Projects are a group effort and there’s usually not one person to blame if things do go wrong. And if there is a case that things go wrong, employees report to their managers, and managers report to their supervisors, and everyone works together to mitigate risk and damage. There are cases where someone does something severely wrong, like compromising confidential information or impacting the safety of the product being produced, and in those cases, it’s appropriate to fire them. But in everyday projects, employees should not be punished for making mistakes. Plus, punishment and penalizing employees when they make mistakes most likely makes the employee not want to work at that company anymore. Companies are supposed to foster a community where employees can grow and learn from their mistakes.

 
Posted : 05/03/2023 3:39 pm
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Most companies should be understanding when projects are not complete when there is a deadline because there are often unforeseen circumstances that cause this. Every situation is different because there are always many moving parts and many things could possibly go wrong. For example, if a team missed a deadline because a part that was ordered came with a defect and they had to order another one, then in this case it would be out of the team's control. In this case, there should not be any punishment and the team should continue and do their best to get the project in as soon as possible. However, if a team is missing deadlines constantly because they are unorganized, then it would be in the company’s best interest to give the project to another team or even assign another project manager to help get the team back on track. Before a project begins, it is important that everybody understand their roles and responsibilities so that there are not any misunderstandings. A project manager should frequently be checking in on the team to make sure that everybody is on track and can point them in the right direction if they need help. Overall, in some situations penalizing is fair, but it is also important to understand what caused the team to miss the deadline.

 
Posted : 07/03/2023 3:27 pm
 vv48
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I don't think the team should be penalized for being late, or not meeting the deadline. Sometimes there are issues with the machines on the production floor, the machine went out of order, or the instrument used to test the verification analysis in the quality lab.is not working properly. Or not just that, what if everything was done on time, but it got delayed to the customer due to a delay on the shipping carriers? Punishment is a strong word, and by using it in the workplace I think people get scared and start looking for new positions in different companies. This will create a shortage in staff causing a delay in other projects that the company has.  If a project did not go as planned, an investigation must be done, so the root cause could be understood and escalated to higher management for further information and based on that, try to find a corrective action on how to fix it next time.

 
Posted : 10/03/2023 9:49 pm
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As others have said, it depends on the severity of the "transgression". As it stands, handing out punishments for bad behavior is a bit unprofessional. The goal of employee discipline should be to increase productivity and decrease the factors that lead to the initial behavior. In a workplace, employees are adults who are expected to act with respect and decorum. If someone is acting in a different manner to this, adequate measures must be taken.

 

For the case of missing deadlines, ordering incorrect materials, etc.; these are mistakes that can't necessarily be attributed to malice. If an employee has made their best effort and still come up short, the manager should have a discussion with them about what can be done to ensure they are working in the best environment for their success.

 
Posted : 11/03/2023 9:28 am
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I think penalization should happen, although, it should be based on the situation. No matter how much preparation is put toward any possible scenarios in which things will not happen as planned, a monkey wrench will always be thrown in. Depending on the situation, the level of reprimand should be dealt with in that regard. For, example, if it came to the case that there were 20 mice ordered instead of the 30 mice that should've been ordered, then that should be punishable due to the lack of attention to detail. If other issues centered around personal issues with team members, then punishment should be less severe.

 
Posted : 11/03/2023 8:06 pm
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I think that in the professional world, the idea of a punishment carries less weight than someones reputation. In a world where we are known for our actions and how we conduct ourselves and get work done speaks to our abilities to do our jobs. I do not think that a punishment is really necessary if a PM makes a wrong decision in the timeline or goes over budget. The stain to your reputation is already more than enough damage than any punishment in my opinion. The company you work for may no longer trust you to work on certain projects, or may not allow you to grow and rise in your position. I think people work to show their abilities and show that they are capable of succeeding and growing. But when someone makes a costly or careless mistake it will show on their record when applying to other PM positions in the future.

 
Posted : 11/03/2024 1:08 am
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In my opinion, project penalization should come with flexibility and consideration for the circumstances. As a project manager, it is essential to ensure that deadlines are feasible and that adequate communication and contingency planning are in place to ensure project success. Time management, effective communication, and responsiveness to critical situations are crucial to achieving project goals. If these elements are neglected or mismanaged, it is reasonable to consider some form of accountability or penalization. Also, for an employee who deserves penalization, it can be a caution for others to comply with the rules.

 
Posted : 14/03/2024 2:49 pm
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Penalties for exceeding project budgets or deadlines must be carefully considered. While accountability is important, it's also critical to comprehend the causes of overruns. Focus should be placed on determining the underlying reasons and putting corrective measures in place rather than imposing fines right away. Punitive actions may stifle creativity and teamwork. However, proper action could be required in situations involving carelessness or intentional misbehavior. Feedback, instruction, role reassignments, rewards, process enhancements, and explicit escalation protocols are a few examples of this. In the end, long-term success ultimately depends on cultivating a culture of accountability and constant improvement.

 
Posted : 18/03/2024 11:55 am
 dmf2
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While the approach to handling project delays or exceeding allotted expenses can vary depending on the circumstances, organizational culture, and the severity of the situation, I personally believe that punishment will achieve nothing but resentment. When working on a project, there are many factors that are beyond the control of the employees, group leads, and even project manager. This includes unexpected technical challenges, changes in scope, or external factors like market shifts. Therefore, rather than looking for a proper punishment, the approach should be to coach for performance and explore methods that motivate people. Within the working place, people have strengths and weaknesses. Most of the time when employees, groups leads, or project managers go over the project deadline or over the allotted expenses, it is due to their weakness. So, appropriate coaching and training should be provided to better the weakness rather than receiving a penalization, or "punishment".

 
Posted : 18/03/2024 5:22 pm
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In most companies, the employee will probably get penalized during bonus time. I don't think most companies would actually penalize an employee, to be honest. 

 
Posted : 24/03/2024 8:23 pm
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